Assassins Creed - Conspiracy

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Нарыл немного интересного, со знанием английского ВЭЛКАМ)






обратите внимание что значек Блюма еще и дико похож на сердцевину Орудия первой воли (что это, посох с яблоком?)
Блюм по немецки поидее цветок... есть идеи?

Далее касаемо нового комикса

As mentioned at the end of article "The Indian Matter" (actually only in Italian), next to the pictures of AC: Brahman posted on Cameron Stewart’s Instagram Profile, there’s one that could picture a potential TWCB of the comic ...



There are a lot of possible interpretations about who this figure might be. Some say that it could be Aphrodite, a TWCB already seen two times in the AC Saga, both from The Divine Science. The first time we saw her was in the Kyros of Zarax memories and the second one in the Elizabeth Jane Weston memories, in the picture that Miss Weston receives from his uncle John Dee.

Others thought of her like Eris, goddess of discord, mentioned in AC1 by Al Mualim, who says that, using an Apple of Eden, she fueled the Trojan War through the Judgement of Paris...
The truth, however, could be another (and I want to stress “could”, we do not take anything for sure) and this is why I’d like to expose a theory that is different from the ones already suggested.

As first step of my research, I tried to contextualize in the AC saga an "Indian TWCB ", a member of the First Civilization based on one of the deities of the Hindu pantheon, and I found a deity that shows details that are very similar to the TWCB we’re talking about…
The Goddess I’m referring to is Durga. Let’s analyze her figure in detail.

Durga (Sanskrit for "the one that can hardly be approached", "the unreachable" or "the invincible") is the Indian Goddess that represents the victory of good over evil: she is also known as the Mother of the Universe and it’s believed that she is the force that lies behind the three functions of the world, creator, preserver and destroyer.
Durga is one of the most famous incarnations / aspects of Parvati, wife of Shiva, the main deity of the Indian Trimurti.

Durga, according to Hindu beliefs, shows up when dark forces threaten the very existence of all gods and she is considered as the “warrior” form of the Divine Mother. An example of her "warrior" side is well shown in the representation of her first descent on the battlefield.

It is narrated that Durga was "created" as a warrior goddess with the objective of fighting an Asura named Mahishasura. The Asuras were another class of Gods within the Vedic area of interest, which were then dethroned by the Devas (the current Hindu gods) and have begun to take on almost demonic character, creating two classes of gods in continuous opposition (A sort of war between Gods). Mahishasura received from god Brahma the ability to not be able to be defeated by either a man or a divine being. Mahishasura, abusing his power, managed to establish a reign of terror in the land, in heaven, and in the underworld by setting himself against the other gods.
Mahishasura then defeated one by one all the deities who controlled the natural forces. These gods, defeated, sought help from Brahma (the most important deity in the Hindu pantheon). Together they made their way in "Vaikuntha" the place where it was said Vishnu would be found. Along with Vishnu they also found Shiva who, after discussing the reign of terror that was imposed by Mahishasura, made a request so that their energy could go to Parvati, goddess and consort of Shiva. The energy of all the gods came to Parvati and in this "sea of energy" in which she was wrapped was "born" Durga. Durga also received a weapon for each of the gods that gave her energy, about 15 different weapons (Durga in depictions often has 16 arms each of which holds a weapon, except a two-handed bow)

Once arrived on the battlefield, Durga challenged Mahishasura openly, and once he accepted the challenge, Durga freed some of her energy causing an earthquake that made Mahishasura aware of her powers.
Mahishasura, however, had a peculiarity, he could change his shape whenever he wanted (PoE?) and lunged at the goddess. Durga could stop him, each time using different weapons, but she could never kill him because whenever she stopped him with a weapon, he changed shape and was able to save himself.
During this relentless struggle where Mahishasura always managed to escape at the last moment from the Goddess, Durga, according to vedic accounts, turned to the Asura saying:
- Laugh out loud while you can, ignorant demon, because when I kill you, the gods will be the ones laughing out loud!

During one of Mahishasura's metamorphoses however, Durga managed to paralyze him in the middle between one form and another (precisely passing from the form of a buffalo to the human one) using the power that came from her trident, donated by Shiva (The Trishula) and then thanks to the Sword (another symbol of knowledge) she was able to cut off the Asura's head.
Not only Durga killed Mahishasura and all his army, but according to the stories, she even freed their souls from the karmic debt that they had accumulated. Durga after this story was also called Mahishasurmardini, meaning "the one who killed Mahishasura"
Lastly Durga / Parvati, as her consort Shiva, has 3 eyes where the left eye represents the Desire, the right one represents the Actions, and the central one, as "mind's eye", represents Knowledge.

In the picture: Durga / Parvati few moments before cutting Mahishasura's head.

Physical features between Stewart's member of TWCB and goddess Parvati/Durga.


Is there a possibility that they are the same deity? I really think there is..


The thing that assimilates the TWCB to Parvati / Durga the most is obviously the appearance, in this case there are 6 points in which we see best the similarities between the two Goddesses.

Point #1
: Almost all of the traits shared by the TWCB with Parvati / Durga are included in their respective headdresses, and the first of these features in common is its shape, which in the TWCB seems almost "flaming" given the complexity of the structure of the headdress. Goddess Durga, together with other forms of Parvati, is often depicted with the headgear having particular structures, some of which are of the same type of Stewart’s member of the First Civilization, such as goddess Lakshmi and the Durga herself, here on the side, in a different picture from the one suggested in the above picture.

Point #2: The following detail that makes the two goddesses similar are those structures that depart from the front of the hat and that "bend" at the end. As Durga, also any other form of Parvati has this trait.

Point #3: Another detail that can be compared between the two goddesses are the "earrings", which in the case of the TWCB could be the final part of the hat but they still give the impression at first glance to be earrings (which came before...: P)


Point #4: An important detail is instead the "central flame with circle", which not only makes Durga very similar to the TWCB, but all the other forms of Parvati (Durga is one of them) also have this particular ornament just above the forehead. Usually figures of this type show precisely a flame that always, in many mythologies (including the Indian one) represents Knowledge, an almost distinctive trait of TWCB (Knowledge as in Sixth Sense, the sense of "Knowing")

Point #5
: Another detail is that element similar to a gem which is part of the headdress of the TWCB and stands exactly between the eyes. It is very much reminiscent of the Third Eye of Goddess Parvati (and all of its forms), which is shown as an eye "rotated " by 90 degrees and that symbolizes the" eye of the Mind ", another symbol of knowledge. It is no coincidence that in this ancient statue of Parvati here at the side, the third eye is represented in a way not so dissimilar to the TWCB that Stewart drew, that is, as a sort of gem between the eyes.



Point #6: The last point is featured only in the TWCB by Stewart and not in the statue of Durga: it's the "face painting" that the TWCB has under her eyes and below the mouth. These two paintings are of two different colors, those under the eyes are dark or black while the one below the mouth, being left as white, will probably be of a different color. These face paintings could be a reference to another form of Parvati, and perhaps the most famous, the terrifying goddess Kālī.
Kālī, in fact, is usually depicted with a lot of different face paintings and especially with her tongue out, which is particularly interesting because if hypothetically the face painting below the mouth of the TWCB was of a red-ish color, it might just remind the picture of a tongue, just like in the representations of Kālī.

In conclusion, all these features in common make us assume that the TWCB with which we are dealing in AC: Brahman can be Parvati or one of her forms. We just have to wait for the official release of the comic to see if our assumptions were correct or not.
That's all that so far we have managed to discover about Stewart's TWCB. Maybe one day the "second DLC" of article might even come out, but nothing is certain.

Для тех кому лень, Новый персонаж из комикса Дурга/Парвати/Кали, некое индийское божество высшего пантеона. Это если совсем коротко. Выше изложены доказательство того что так оно и есть.
 

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Информацию почитаю попозже)) Что хочу добавить - этот символ на картинке - знак Юноны, если верить Википедии. Астрономический символ.

- скипетр, увенчанный звездой
 

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они ближе чем мы все думаем. мне кажется проникновение юноны в облако и вся мутотень с вочдогс напрямую связаны. обсерватория=ctos в малых масштабах. если б тамплиеры до нее добрались, гладишь, блюм бы поглотил весь мир
 

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они ближе чем мы все думаем. мне кажется проникновение юноны в облако и вся мутотень с вочдогс напрямую связаны. обсерватория=ctos в малых масштабах. если б тамплиеры до нее добрались, гладишь, блюм бы поглотил весь мир

Разработчики сказали в интервью, что обе игры не находятся в одной вселенной.

Это просто фанаты фантазируют)))
 

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разработчики... юбисофт... они слишком часто говорят вещи, не соответствующие действительности
да и потом, абстерго владеет Blume, огранизацией, занимающей главную роль в Псах. Та компания которая контролирует "ктос"...они просто не могут отрицать самих себя))))))))))))
юбисофт такие юбисофт
 

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да и потом, абстерго владеет Blume

Да это просто обычная пасхалка. Ничего более.

Вот в АС-4 еще есть пасхалка на "Осирис". И некоторые фанаты на основании той картинки уже начали строить целые теории, что пятая часть АС будет в Древнем Египте, и будем играть за негра. И даже доказательства всякие приводят и обосновывают свою теорию)))
 

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я не считаю это пасхалкой. уж слишком крутая вышла пасхалка. разговоры людей-может быть, но не целая статья.

я когда увидил негра с белой шевелюрой аж сам чуть не поседел, ведь это та самая картинка что была пару лет назад на форумах юби.
Что еще за "пасхалка на "Осирис".
p.s. насчет осириса вопрос снят (http://www.gamer.ru/news/v-set-popal-nedodelannyy-treyler-proekta-osiris-ot-ubisoft-upd-proekt-zamorozhen)
 

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вставили в одну игру картинку из другой игры.

отмененной! да не суть я уверен что вочдогс будет связан с АК так или иначе. как выразится эта связь покажет время, а сейчас слишком много ЗА то что они связаны, начиная с Юноны в клауд сервере абстерго (а от абстерго до блюма рукой подать), заканчивая "историей с фиалами, обсерваторией и жуть как похожей на всё это ctos"

меня больше всего ПОКА интересует сам комикс. есть ли он у кого в оригинал, нет, всеравно. ведь полюбому гдето ктото купил и в силу различных обстоятельств не может перевести, пускай лучше бы выложил, а мы бы сообразили бы чтонибудь
 

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и сам комикс. есть ли он у кого в оригинал, нет, всеравно. ведь полюбому гдето ктото купил и в силу различных обстоятельств не может перевести, пускай лучше бы выложил, а мы бы сообразили бы чтонибудь

Вот здесь есть краткое содержание комикса:

http://assassins-creed.ru/forum/index.php?/topic/5146-assassins-creed-brahman/page__view__findpost__p__117759
 

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спасибо, я на вики читал. хочется канеш не в КРАТЦЕ)) это всеравно что если бы ЦЕПЬ написать, орлов переехал в америку, подрастил там сына, а потом умер... сражаясь с асасинами... от руки собственного сына
 

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[member=Pateytos], кстати ты сам придерживаешься какой теории --- всего лишь Пасхалка --- или Обе игры в одной вселенной?
 

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Мне срочно нужен переводчик. Ибо мой мозг отказывается воспринимать набор слов от рафика.
И да,хватит уже связывать 2 абсолютно разные Вселенные. Сами юбики говорили что это разные истории которые косвенно пересекаются. И тем более непонятно упорство и слепота Рафика,лично я не вижу каких-либо предпосылок к тому что они пересекаются. И да,накипело,но таким людям вообще не стоит играть в игры если они в упор не видят разжеванной и явной информации и всячески отторгают ее.(тут скорее вообщем говорю чем одному человеку).
 

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кстати оливье (оливье)))))))) отправился в чикаго... и пропал)))) почему то я уверен что к этому приложили руку ребята из ВД. странная иначе пасахлка получается
 

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